Trump and Schumer End Private Talks/ No Deal

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/1/19/16907138/government-shutdown-2018


The real victims of government shutdowns are poor kids, military vets, and low-paid workers

Member of Congress will be fine.

"The odds of a government shutdown are increasingly likely. As Republicans and Democrats find themselves at an impasse on immigration, the hope of a deal by midnight Friday to fund the government is fading fast.



A shutdown won’t really affect the politicians responsible for it — members of Congress, after all, keep getting paid when the government shuts down.



But what the 2013 government shutdown showed us is that some Americans really do suffer — specifically poor kids in the Head Start program; military families; and janitors, security guards and other low-wage federal contractors.


It's hard to grasp how many programs and services across the country rely on funding from the annual spending bill that Congress passes. But in October 2013, more than 850,000 federal workers were furloughed for the 16-day shutdown, affecting services for all Americans in all 50 states. Only “essential” government employees were allowed to work: anyone whose job is a matter of life and death or an urgent public safety matter.



There’s no evidence anyone died as a result of the 2013 shutdown, though as Tom Frieden, the former head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told Vox, “In practice it’s certainly possible. We didn’t have our systems fully up and running to assess that.”

But we do know it hurt many Americans who depend on services funded by the appropriations bill. Here are three groups of Americans who lost, and are likely to lose again if the government shuts down on Friday."



Low-income kids in Head Start, Military families and veterans and Low-wage federal contractors are three groups of Americans who lost before and are likely to lose again if the govt shuts down.

Or...a combination of the WH and Congress will be responsible if the govt shut downs.

This is not either, or.

Each branch holds responsibility if this comes to pass. How much is yet too be determined.


That Congress sipping champagne and eating caviar is over 50% Republican...both Senate and the House. 

The WH is Republican. 


Not a great visual. 

Takes 60 votes to pass and Republicans only have 51 so no it's not the Republicans blocking things.

So if your family is missing a paycheck next week, here's who you can thank.

Senate Democrats appeared to have blocked a spending bill on Friday night that would have prevented a government shutdown. The procedural motion to advance the bill needs 60 votes to pass.

Democrats blocked a spending bill to keep the government open, but senators remain on the floor.
60 votes needed to pass YES NO Yet to vote
Republicans 45 4 2
Democrats 5 44 0
Total 50 48 2

Updated at 12:16:08 AM ET
Votes by Party
51 Republicans Yes No
Total 45 4
Jeff Flake Ariz.
N
Lindsey Graham S.C.
N
Mike Lee Utah
N
Rand Paul Ky.
N
Lamar Alexander Tenn.
Y
John Barrasso Wyo.
Y
Roy Blunt Mo.
Y
John Boozman Ark.
Y
Richard M. Burr N.C.
Y
Shelley Moore Capito W.Va.
Y
Bill Cassidy La.
Y
Thad Cochran Miss.
Y
Susan Collins Me.
Y
Bob Corker Tenn.
Y
John Cornyn Tex.
Y
Tom Cotton Ark.
Y
Michael D. Crapo Idaho
Y
Ted Cruz Tex.
Y
Steve Daines Mont.
Y
Michael B. Enzi Wyo.
Y
Joni Ernst Iowa
Y
Deb Fischer Neb.
Y
Cory Gardner Colo.
Y
Charles E. Grassley Iowa
Y
Orrin G. Hatch Utah
Y
Dean Heller Nev.
Y
John Hoeven N.D.
Y
James M. Inhofe Okla.
Y
Johnny Isakson Ga.
Y
Ron Johnson Wis.
Y
John Kennedy La.
Y
James Lankford Okla.
Y
Jerry Moran Kan.
Y
Lisa Murkowski Alaska
Y
David Perdue Ga.
Y
Rob Portman Ohio
Y
Jim Risch Idaho
Y
Pat Roberts Kan.
Y
Mike Rounds S.D.
Y
Marco Rubio Fla.
Y
Ben Sasse Neb.
Y
Tim Scott S.C.
Y
Richard C. Shelby Ala.
Y
Dan Sullivan Alaska
Y
John Thune S.D.
Y
Thom Tillis N.C.
Y
Patrick J. Toomey Pa.
Y
Roger Wicker Miss.
Y
Todd Young Ind.
Y
John McCain Ariz.
Mitch McConnell Ky.


49 Democrats Yes No
Total 5 44

Joe Donnelly Ind.
Y
Heidi Heitkamp N.D.
Y
Doug Jones Ala.
Y
Joe Manchin III W.Va.
Y
Claire McCaskill Mo.
Y
Tammy Baldwin Wis.
N
Michael Bennet Colo.
N
Richard Blumenthal Conn.
N
Cory Booker N.J.
N
Sherrod Brown Ohio
N
Maria Cantwell Wash.
N
Benjamin L. Cardin Md.
N
Thomas R. Carper Del.
N
Bob Casey Pa.
N
Chris Coons Del.
N
Catherine Cortez Masto Nev.
N
Tammy Duckworth Ill.
N
Richard J. Durbin Ill.
N
Dianne Feinstein Calif.
N
Kirsten Gillibrand N.Y.
N
Kamala Harris Calif.
N
Maggie Hassan N.H.
N
Martin Heinrich N.M.
N
Mazie K. Hirono Hawaii
N
Tim Kaine Va.
N
Angus King Me.
N
Amy Klobuchar Minn.
N
Patrick J. Leahy Vt.
N
Edward J. Markey Mass.
N
Robert Menendez N.J.
N
Jeff Merkley Ore.
N
Christopher S. Murphy Conn.
N
Patty Murray Wash.
N
Bill Nelson Fla.
N
Gary Peters Mich.
N
Jack Reed R.I.
N
Bernie Sanders Vt.
N
Brian Schatz Hawaii
N
Chuck Schumer N.Y.
N
Jeanne Shaheen N.H.
N
Tina Smith Minn.
N
Debbie Stabenow Mich.
N
Jon Tester Mont.
N
Tom Udall N.M.
N
Chris Van Hollen Md.
N
Mark Warner Va.
N
Elizabeth Warren Mass.
N
Sheldon Whitehouse R.I.
N
Ron Wyden Ore.
N

They are "idiots" because they do not agree with you ?

Is that not a bit arrogant?

How about I do not agree with those 48 % because...fill in the blank....instead? 

Amen, @justbec, and frankly...



That's hardly surprising. Most people blame the President and the GOP for just about everything, but the fact is that the Democrats are no better. And these Government shut downs are hardly a new idea...they happened under Obama too. It's got to do with Congress, not who's sitting in the WH. And as was said in the previous post, Congress is taken care of so they don't give a damn how long things are at a standstill, but there are plenty of Government employees, as well as the Military, who will really suffer while they have their annual pissing match.

One liberal with brains... wheeeeee